Up Green
From Lacey Green History
Research. Dennis Claydon was given the Abstract of the Title of Mr Henry Batt Mason, mortgagee, starting January 1775 up to 1838. This document is archived in Lacey Green Village Hall.
Research was continued by Joan West taken from Census. Parish Records & documents by later owners.
Up Green was a small area, semi-circular in shape, sometimes call 'Roundabouts', part of Lacey Green or Leasey Green, one of the Upper hamlets of Princes Risborough. Documents in 1775 state that it was freehold at that time, therefore it no longer belonged to the Manor of Princes Risborough. The other part of what was Lacey Green/ Leasey Green was known as 'Lower Green', which was on the north-west corner of what became Church Lane.
MAP by THOMAS JEFFRIES. Surveyed 1766 to 1768.
MAP MADE FOR LORD CAVENDISH. Surveyed 1816/17. Published 1818. This map gives clear details of Up Green
January 20th1775. Indenture between John Anderson and Thomas Dell. Purchase by the said Thomas Dell from the said John Anderson for £64. This document is archived in Lacey Green Village Hall. For details of John Anderson go to Vine Cottage
The Land The closes lay as crescent shaped meadow encircling three sides of 'Up Green' or “Roundabouts”. The south-eastern half of this was an orchard also
a small building at the far bottom east of the orchard. The land of Mrs Frankling to the south.
1823. The enclosures of Princes Risborough map shows the land of Up Green named as Portobello Meadow with five attached cottages, Portobello Cottages 1-5 built off the north-west corner of the land. Also Thomas Dell had built two attached cottages on to the house later to be called Vine Cottage. Also Thomas Dell Jnr, who inherited from Thomas Dell snr in 1811, had built another cottage adjoining on land purchased from Daniel Russell. altogether land containing 4 acres 1 rood.
VINE COTTAGE
Thomas Dell and his wife Ann, restored the two dwellings to their original one cottage, see Thomas Dell snr & Ann Dell. They opened it as a grocery store, Thomas describing himself as a chandler. (It was much later that it was called Vine Cottage). In 1810 they moved to Stocken Farm, leaving other members of the family to run the shop.
John Carter Dell. Thomas and Ann’s grandson, lived there with his wife Elizabeth. See John Carter & Elizabeth Dell. John is listed as being a grocer, beerseller, and later, farmer, on the land his grandfather had bought back in 1775.
1811. DEATH of THOMAS DELL Snr.
Thomas left everything to his wife Ann to go to their eldest son Thomas Jnr on her death. Ann was living at Stocken Farm, which they had rented from the Manor in 1810. She gave the Up Green properties to Thomas Jnr, who was living and farming at Speen Farm, long before she died in 1827.
Up Green. Thomas Dell Jnr. built another cottage attached to those built by his father. The entrance to this was from the south end of the four, an area called Idle Corner See Thomas Dell Jnr. & Mary,nee Carter
Research Note. Dennis Claydon was told by older local residents that it was understood that Thomas Dell had got into debt funding a dispute over land or hedges that culminated in a case in Court. Research has not yet found documentary evidence of this. However the following affidavit does suggest that something was certainly going on.
The following affidavit concerns Lacey Green Farm, Up Green, Thomas Dell snr & Ann Dell, and Thomas Dell Jnr. & Mary,nee Carter
28th July 1834. Affidavit by Samuel Smith of Speen in the Parish of Princes Risborough in the County of Buckingham labourer maketh Oath and saith that he was born at Speen aforesaid that he is sixty eight years of age and have lived at Speen aforesaid all his life And this Deponent further saith that he knows the piece of Land at Lacey Green in the Parish of Princes Risborough aforesaid called "Up Green or Roundabout" containing about four acres the property of Thomas Dell of Speen Farm at or adjoining to Speen aforesaid Yeoman and have known the same from the time he was a boy And this deponent further saith that during the whole of such time such piece of land has been successively in the possession of Thomas Dell the Father of the said Thomas Dell, Ann Dell the Mother of the said Thomas Dell and the said Thomas Dell the Son as owners and proprietors thereof And this deponent further saith that he hath been informed and believe that a small portion of the said piece was many years since enclosed from the waste or common land there but this Deponent saith that such piece of land must have been inclosed for a longer period than fifty years since for during the said period of fifty years last the said piece of land hath been of the same shape and size that it is at present And this Deponent further saith the five fields or pieces of land lying together adjoining each other at or near Darvills Hill in the Parish of Princes Risborough aforesaid the Property and in the occupation of Thomas Dell of Speen Farm in the Parish of Princes Risborough aforesaid and containing together about twenty eight acres and also the four cottages or tenements two barns stable and a cart house standing and being on part and at the front thereof next the residence and premises of Mrs Shard and which and which said twenty eight acres of land and premises are distant from Speen aforesaid about one mile and are called or known by the names of Pettifers or Petiffers and Newells and are in a triangular form and bounded at one end and on one side thereof by a road leading from High Wycombe by Walters As to Lacey Green and on the other side by a footpath or way leading from the said Road through lands belonging to the said Mrs Shard to Lacey Green aforesaid And this Deponent further saith that he hath known such pieces of land all his life or so long thereof as can remember and that he distinctly remembers the same together with the said Cottages or Tenements Barns Stable and Cart House to have for upwards of the last thirty eight years been in the successive uninterrupted and peaceable possession of Thomas Dell the Father of the said Thomas Dell of Speen Farm aforesaid Ann Dell the Mother of the said Thomas Dell the Son and the said Thomas Dell the Son as Owner and Proprietor thereof And this Deponent further saith to the best of his recollection and belief such twenty eight acres of Land were formerly divided into a greater number of fields but since the same land came into the possession of the said Thomas Dell the Father some of the hedges have been grubbed up and such twenty eight acres of Land now lie in five fields only two of which are Meadow and the other three are arable And this Deponent further saith that the said five fields Barns Stables and Cart house are now in the occupation of the said Thomas Dell the Son and the said four Cottages or Tenements are in the respective occupation of the tenants of the said Thomas Dell the Son. Samuel Smith
Sworn at the Borough of Chepping Wycombe in the County of Buckingham this twenty eighth day of July one thousand eight hundred and thirty four before me. John Parker A Master Extraordinary in Chancery
29th September 1837 Thomas Dell Jnr. Declared Bankrupt.
Sale by power of the Mortgagee
29th September 1837. Property of Thomas Dell, Jnr of Speen Farm
Schedule. An Estate at Lacey Green called "Roundabouts" (Up Green), comprising 4 freehold cottages with buildings and garden, and 4 acres, 1 rood of excellent Meadow Land, in the occupation of John Carter Dell.
May 22nd 1838. Conveyance. Joshua Dell, son of Thomas Dell of Speen Farm, and brother of John Carter Dell, purchased the estate scheduled above for £351 – 14s – 10d. See 1801 Joshua Dell for further information.
4th February 1856. Joshua Dell sold to Mary Grace. for £315 (£200 for mortgage, £115 to Joshua Dell)
Schedule Cottages (formerly 2) now four (Idle Corner) formerly occupied by John Carter Dell (dec'd) but now by Joshua Dell, John Claydon and others, plus 4acres- 0 roods,33poles Meadow and Orchard adjoining.
3rd August 1888 Mortgage. Oliver James Grace took a mortgage with Edith Isabel Chapman of No.1 Hyde Park Mansions, Marylebone Road, Middlesex, spinster, for certain lands and hereditaments Situate at Lacey Green. Together with the four cottages and all other buildings then erected thereon, for £200 with interest thereon.
22nd August 1862. The Reverend Oliver James Grace inherited from Mary Grace who died 19th June 1862.
1th August 1995 Mortgage. This indenture witnesseth that Oliver James Grace of Saunderton Rectory, Clerk in Holy Orders, has paid back the principal and the interest of the mortgage taken on 3rd August 1888, to Edith Isabel Thompson, nee Chapman.
12th September 1905. Auction on behalf of The Reverend Oliver James Grace. Lots 3 and 4 of this sale were properties in Lacey Green. Both bought by Frederick Floyd. Fred Floyd. (A copy of this Auction Catatogue is archived in Lacey Green Village Hall)
Lot 3. 4 adjoining cottages and land of 1acre-3roods-18poles. (Up Green). Purchased by Frederick Floyd, for £355. Fred Floyd
The four cottages were: -- 1st cottage,(later called Vine Cottage) six rooms, bakehouse and oven. Tenant Joseph Brisco
2nd Cottage, two rooms. Tenant Rixon.
3rd cottage four rooms. Tenant Janes.
4th cottage four rooms Tenant Ginger.
The total rental of the cottages being £14 9s 8d, the Landlord paying the Rates.
Capital well-stocked gardens, with Pigstyes, Wood sheds and a Water Tank.
Enclosure of Meadow Land, Planted with Cherry Trees, the area being 1acre-3roods-18poles Let to Mrs Floyd, together with Lot 4, at £10-15s per annum, the apportioned rent for this Lot being £4 15s.
A right of way is reserved over this lot to a premises known as Hets Loo
Lot 4. A choice enclosure of Freehold Meadow Land, known as "Roundabouts" at Up Green containing an area of 2acres 1rood 16poles. Having an extensive Frontage on the Main Road, in the Centre of the Village and affording a Charming SITE for the Erection of one or more Houses, let to Mrs Floyd, together with other land at £10 15s per annum, the apportioned rent of this Lot being £6 per annum. The Purchaser of this Lot will have to erect and maintain a substantial boundary fence between this Lot and Lot 3.
2nd October 1939. Frederick Floyd died 13th July 1939. His son Harry George Floyd, Harry Floyd inherits four cottages and Meadowland 1acre-3roods-18poles, tenants Oakford, Turney, Mrs C,Ginger and G.Ginger.
Joan West takes up the research.
Harry George Floyd inherited from his father, Vine Cottages, other cottages and Floyds Farm. See Harry Floyd
1939 WW2 Census
Tenant. Sarah Oakford, 74, George Oakford, 33, Leonard Oakford, 31, Hilda Ganten, 37.
December 6th. 1946 3 Conveyances :- (this document is archived in Lacey Green Village Hall)
Harry George Floyd to Harold George Janes tenant. Conveyance. A portion of the mentioned property consisting of a piece land having a frontage to the road of 103 feet and forming the SW portion thereof, together with the messuage erected thereon, (Vine Cottage). The Janes family called the house 'Cliveden', not Vine Cottage. They did not stay there long, as their son, Roger, had asthma and the house was very damp.
Harry George Floyd to Henry John Turney, tenant. Conveyance A portion of the mentioned property comprising two cottages and a detached piece of garden ground. The Insurance for the two cottages, the cover being £500 (being valued at £250 each. annual premium £8s and 6d (42 and a half pence) The cottage next to Mr Ginger he called 'Cosy Cot'.
Harry George Floyd to Leslie Jonah Ginger, tenant. Conveyance. A portion of the mentioned property consisting of a cottage and garden. together with a right of way thereto from the road, called Idle Corner
27th September 1957 Conveyance. Harry George Floyd to Margaret Bateman.
Schedule. All that piece of meadow land containing 1 ace 3 roods 18 poles, conveyed by Harry George Floyd to Margaret Bateman of Grynsdyke, Lacey Green, married woman.
By the year 2000, Up Green was no longer known by that title, and had been developed to include the following properties:--
Vine Cottage to which were attached 3 cottages, known as: -
Idle Corner where there had been the entrance way to – Hets Loo now called (Hets Orchard) which was just behind the area of Up Green, but the entrance to it was from Idle Corner. The entrance was later changed to Kiln Lane.
3 new houses off Idle Corner, called Idle Cottage, Idle Corner (house) and White Cottage.
The Village Hall
Warren Row, 3 cottages
Site of Rose Cottage(demolished)
1 & 2 Plum Tree Cottages
Roundlands Close
Eastlands Close.
SEPARATE HISTORIES
Each of these places is recorded under their own title
| Up Green | |
|---|---|
| Construction Era | 1700-1822 |
| Type of Property | Cottage, Land |
| Use of Property | |
| Locations | Lacey Green |