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 '''1911 census''' at Smalldean Farm
-'''1911 Purchase of Stocken Farm.'''  He was still also farming Pound Farm at Saunderton Lea when he bought  [[Stocken Farm]] in Lacey Green for £3,400, 167 acres, 1 rood ,24 poles, including the farmhouse and two cottages, [[Graham Cottages]] built on the main road by the previous owner Mr.Forrest of [[Grymsdyke]] in 1885.
+'''1911 Purchase of Stocken Farm.'''  He was still also farming Pound Farm at Saunderton Lea when he bought  [[Stocken Farm]] in Lacey Green for £3,400, 167 acres, 1 rood ,24 poles, including the farmhouse and two semi detached cottages, [[Graham Cottage no 1]] and [[Graham Cottage no 2]], built in 1885 on the main road by the previous owner Mr.Forrest of [[Grymsdyke]].
-'''''Researcher's Note'''.   It was a sign of the difficult farming times that Mr Forrest had paid £8,250 for it in 1877, added two houses and sold losing£4850, 33 years later.  There had been terrible weather starting in 1870  right through the first world war. (See “weather conditions”).''
+'''''Researcher's Note'''.   It was a sign of the difficult farming times that Mr Forrest had paid £8,250 for it in 1877, added two houses and sold losing£4850, 33 years later.  There had been terrible weather starting in 1870  right through the first world war.  click [[Weather]] for more''
 '''Land Added.'''   William Saunders already owned the two fields in Lacey Green, which he had bought about 1877, from [https://laceygreenhistory.com/w/index.php/Josephine_Irving Josephine Irving], mortgagee of [https://laceygreenhistory.com/w/index.php/George_Cheshire George Cheshire] land that had been part of the old Common of Princes Risborough.  They were at the bottom of [https://laceygreenhistory.com/w/index.php/Goodacres_Lane Goodacres Lane] on the north west side, later known as [https://laceygreenhistory.com/w/index.php/Hillcrest_Field Hillcrest Field], and straight ahead to a field called ‘Hillocks’.  William had a barn built in Hillcrest Field.   From 1911 these fields became part of Stocken Farm.   In 1934 the smaller one was sold off to George Hawes. of [https://laceygreenhistory.com/w/index.php/Woodbyne_Farm Woodbyne Farm.]

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 '''Louisa Saunders born 1885''' married 1918 William George Wilkins, soldier
-[[File:Phillip and Alice Pitcher Wedding.jpg|left|thumb|1915. Philip Pitcher ad Alice Saunders wed. Reception at Stocken Farm]]
+[[File:Phillip and Alice Pitcher Wedding.jpg|left|thumb|1915. Philip Pitcher and Alice Saunders wed. Reception at Stocken Farm]]
 '''Alice Saunders''' born 1887married Philip Sidney Pitcher, farmer.   Click [[Philip & Alice Pitcher]].  When their farm failed they moved into [https://laceygreenhistory.com/w/index.php/Hillcrest Hillcrest].1893
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 ''Researcher's note''.  Harry worked for his ''father.   William was very strong willed and no doubt difficult and certainly unlikely to retire, although he had built [[Hillcrest]] House, [[Goodacres Lane]] supposedly for his retirement.  Life was not easy for Harry.  However he made a very happy marriage with Pamela (Pammie) Saunders from Bradenham.  They had four daughters, themselves happily married, when Harry was devastated by the death of his wife in a car crash, tragically driven by his son-in-law.''
-'''Annie Daisy Saunders''' born 1893 married Ernest Smith in 1919.  click [[Ernest & Daisy Smith]] for their story.  Also click [[1919 Wedding of Daisy Saunders & Ernest Smith]].
+'''Annie Daisy Saunders''' born 1893 married Ernest Smith in 1919.  click  [[Ernest & Daisy Smith]] for their story.  Also click [[1919 Wedding of Daisy Saunders & Ernest Smith]].
 '''1871 Census'''.  William Saunders Jnr. was working for his father who was renting [https://laceygreenhistory.com/w/index.php/Speen_Farm Speen Farm]

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 '''Louisa Saunders born 1885''' married 1918 William George Wilkins, soldier
-[[File:Phillip and Alice Pitcher Wedding.jpg|left|thumb]]
+[[File:Phillip and Alice Pitcher Wedding.jpg|left|thumb|1915. Philip Pitcher ad Alice Saunders wed. Reception at Stocken Farm]]
 '''Alice Saunders''' born 1887married Philip Sidney Pitcher, farmer.   Click [[Philip & Alice Pitcher]].  When their farm failed they moved into [https://laceygreenhistory.com/w/index.php/Hillcrest Hillcrest].1893

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 '''Louisa Saunders born 1885''' married 1918 William George Wilkins, soldier
+[[File:Phillip and Alice Pitcher Wedding.jpg|left|thumb]]
 '''Alice Saunders''' born 1887married Philip Sidney Pitcher, farmer.   Click [[Philip & Alice Pitcher]].  When their farm failed they moved into [https://laceygreenhistory.com/w/index.php/Hillcrest Hillcrest].1893

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 '''Emma Caroline Saunders''' born 1880 married 1905 [[Fred Floyd]].   click [[Fred Floyd]] for Fred and Carries story
-'''Ethel Saunders born 1883''' married 1912 Ralph Dell, carpenter, g.g.grandson of Thomas and Ann Dell.  See [[Thomas Dell snr & Ann Dell]].   William gave [[Graham Cottage no 1]] and [[Graham Cottage no 2]] to his daughter Ethel.   click Ralph & Ethel Dell for their life story,
+'''Ethel Saunders born 1883''' married 1912 Ralph Dell, carpenter, g.g.grandson of Thomas and Ann Dell.  See [[Thomas Dell snr & Ann Dell]].   William gave [[Graham Cottage no 1]] and [[Graham Cottage no 2]] to his daughter Ethel.   click [[Ralph & Ethel Dell]] for their life story,
 '''Louisa Saunders born 1885''' married 1918 William George Wilkins, soldier

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 '''Reports by Alan Luxford,'''  g.grandson of William and Bethia, grandson of [[Sidney & Bessie Ing]] talked of him :-
-'''Market Days'''
+'''Market Days.'''  He always went to Thame market on Tuesdays and Wycombe market on Fridays.   He did a lot of dealing, often buying and selling-on without taking the stock home.  William couldn`t read or write and Bethia went with him to do the writing.
 He bought  his own horses from John Baillie,Theobalds Road, London, usually keeping them in the field behind Hillcrest House where he had built a barn, ( sadly no longer there).  The field grew a lot of mushrooms which people liked to collect.   He kept a little donkey and trap and would rush across and stop them, and take what they had picked.    See [https://laceygreenhistory.com/w/index.php/1924_William's_easy_pickings 1924 William's easy pickings]
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 He would never change his clocks for summertime, calling it “Fools Time”.  Sometimes the families would be asked for Sunday lunch;  they often arrived an hour early or late having forgotten this.
-[[Mabel Janes]] of [[White House Farm or Sunnybank]] as it was then, knew of him and his exploits.   She related :-
+[[Mabel Janes]] of [[Sunnybank]], [[Highwood Bottom]], knew of him and his exploits.   She related :-
-'''ILLITERATE.'''   Mrs Wyatt, daughter of [[George & Annie Floyd]] said "William couldn't read or write and Bethia went to market with him to do the writing.   He always went to Thame market on Tuesdays and Wycombe on Fridays.  He did a lot of dealing often buying and selling on without taking the stock home.   He would never change the clocks to summertime.  I remember him swotting flies which particularly annoyed him  He bought his horses from John Baillie, Theobalds Road, London.   He had a pony and trap and a horse and trap".
+'''Illiterate.'''   Mrs Wyatt, daughter of [[George & Annie Floyd]] said "William couldn't read or write and Bethia went to market with him to do the writing.   He always went to Thame market on Tuesdays and Wycombe on Fridays.  He did a lot of dealing often buying and selling on without taking the stock home.   He would never change the clocks to summertime.  I remember him swotting flies which particularly annoyed him  He bought his horses from John Baillie, Theobalds Road, London.   He had a pony and trap and a horse and trap".
 William could not read or write, but Bethia could.   She would go to market with him to do any writing or reading required.   He dealt in horses, cattle and sheep, often buying and selling them on, without bringing them back to the farm.
-'''TRADING IN LONDON'''
+'''Trading in London.'''  His own horses he bought from John Baillie of Theobalds Road, London.   He sold hay and straw in London.  There were numerous small dairy farms in London.   They would have up to six cows each, and were always kept inside.   He brought back manure to put on his fields.   There were also thousands of horses.   Not only horses and ponies kept for working but also for riding.
-That he was remembered for swotting flies which particularly annoyed him.   He had a very loud voice she could hear him from her home, Sunnybank, in Highwood Bottom and so had the donkey which would bray loudly if he left it.
+That he was remembered for swotting flies which particularly annoyed him.   He had a very loud voice she could hear him from her home in Highwood Bottom and so had the donkey which would bray loudly if he left it.
 William also continued to farm Pound Farm down at Saunderton Lee.   When he needed extra workers he would shout instructions down to them from near Lacey Green Windmill.
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 William was very much the boss of his family.   He did not work on Sundays.
-Bethia was remembered as a short, stout, gentle woman, a good wife and mother.   She brought up Harry Floyd, their grandson from the age of 2, starting when they lived at Smalldean Farm.
+Bethia was remembered as a short, stout, gentle woman, a good wife and mother.   She brought up Harry Floyd, their grandson from the age of 2, starting when they lived at [[Smalldean Farm]].
 Bethia died in 1932, aged 78, and William died in 1934.   Aged 83.   Even then he managed to be controversial as his name was mentioned when the uproar about the poisonous water in the villages hit the headlines'''.'''   See [[1934 Lacey Green Water in the News]]
 '''The following report is by [https://laceygreenhistory.com/w/index.php/Miles_Marshall Miles Marshall]'''
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 William Saunders, Mrs Smith's father, was the son of another William, of [https://laceygreenhistory.com/w/index.php/Speen_Farm Speen Farm], now the [https://laceygreenhistory.com/w/index.php/Home_of_Rest_for_Horses Home of Rest for Horses], whilst he was still working there for his father, young William demonstrated his initiative by driving a team of horses to London with a wagonload of hay which he quickly sold to the occupant of one of the large private houses which then stood in Piccadilly.   It was good quality hay at a fair price so that he soon developed a lucrative trade with the London gentry.
-'''Set on by Footpads'''
+'''Set on by Footpads.'''  When he was first married he took over the [https://laceygreenhistory.com/w/index.php/Rose_and_Crown Rose and Crown] public house at Saunderton for a short while before moving to Small Dean Farm in 1894, on his own account.   Meanwhile he continued to develop his London hay trade and would make regular monthly trips by train to collect his accounts which were mostly settled in golden sovereigns in those days.   This was before [[Saunderton Station]] was built so that he had a lonely walk back to the Rose and Crown from Risborough station and on one such evening he was set upon by two footpads and robbed.
-It was not unknown, however, despite the amity which existed between the Saunders family and the families of the farm hands, for [https://laceygreenhistory.com/w/index.php/George_Maunder George Maunder], the hasty tempered carter, to have a tiff with his boss who could at times be equally short.   On more than one occasion George was off to the Michaelmas Fair, with the traditional twist of whipcord in his buttonhole, denoting his trade, and fixed himself up with a new master.   But when all the family’s chattels had been loaded onto a wagon for departure to the new home, master and man would make up their differences and it all had to be unloaded again.   On one notable occasion though, they did leave and worked a whole year at [[Wardrobes Farm (Row Farm)]].   But Mrs Saunders, the peacemaker, went over there at the end of his contract and brought them back again to Small Dean where they stayed for many years.
+'''Problem Solved.'''  After this experience, as his train approached the back garden of the Rose and Crown, which extended down to the track, he would open the carriage window and hurl his bag of gold into the garden.   As his wife heard the train approaching she quickly ran down the garden to secure the money.   He was not robbed again.
-'''A Hansom Cab in the Hedge'''
+'''William and his Farm Hands.'''  It was not unknown, however, despite the amity which existed between the Saunders family and the families of the farm hands, for [https://laceygreenhistory.com/w/index.php/George_Maunder George Maunder], the hasty tempered carter, to have a tiff with his boss who could at times be equally short.   On more than one occasion George was off to the Michaelmas Fair, with the traditional twist of whipcord in his buttonhole, denoting his trade, and fixed himself up with a new master.   But when all the family’s chattels had been loaded onto a wagon for departure to the new home, master and man would make up their differences and it all had to be unloaded again.   On one notable occasion though, they did leave and worked a whole year at [[Wardrobes Farm (Row Farm)]].   But Mrs Saunders, the peacemaker, went over there at the end of his contract and brought them back again to Small Dean where they stayed for many years.
-And can anyone remember the old London hansom cab which William Saunders parked up in ‘Double Hedge’ so that in wet weather he could sit up there and shoot rabbits?
+'''A Hansom Cab in the Hedge.'''  And can anyone remember the old London hansom cab which William Saunders parked up in ‘Double Hedge’ so that in wet weather he could sit up there and shoot rabbits?
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 '''Bethia Janes was born in 1854''', the eldest daughter of [[Henry & Mary Janes]]
-'''William and Bethia married in 1877.'''
+'''William and Bethia married in 1877'''
 '''William and Bethia had 7 children as follows :-'''

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 Research started by [[Dennis Claydon]], continued by [[Joan West]], taken from the census, deeds of  [[Stocken Farm]], interviews with all alive post 1950s and added to by  [[Miles Marshall]]
-'''William Saunders Jnr. was born in 1851,''' at the Rose and Crown public house, the son of William & Louisa Saunders, see [[William Saunders, born 1815 & Louisa, nee Lacey]].
+'''William Saunders Jnr. was born in 1851,''' at the Rose and Crown public house, the son of William & Louisa Saunders, click [[William Saunders, born 1815 & Louisa, nee Lacey]].
 '''Bethia Janes was born in 1854''', the eldest daughter of [[Henry & Mary Janes]]