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 (married Fred Floyd in 1905)]]
-[[File:Phillip and Alice Pitcher Wedding.jpg|thumb]]
+[[File:Phillip and Alice Pitcher Wedding.jpg|thumb|Wedding group at Stocken Farm. Alice Saunders married Philip Sidney Pitcher.  Bethia seated 3rd from right, William tanding behind her. ]]
 It had 167 acres, 1 rood ,24 poles of land including the farmhouse and two cottages called [[Graham Cottages]] built on the main road by the previous owner John Forrest of [[Grymsdyke]] in 1885.   (click [[John & Evelyn Forrest]] for more about their lives.)

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	(married Fred Floyd in 1905)]]		(married Fred Floyd in 1905)]]
		+	[[File:Phillip and Alice Pitcher Wedding.jpg\|thumb]]
	It had 167 acres, 1 rood ,24 poles of land including the farmhouse and two cottages called [[Graham Cottages]] built on the main road by the previous owner John Forrest of [[Grymsdyke]] in 1885. (click [[John & Evelyn Forrest]] for more about their lives.)		It had 167 acres, 1 rood ,24 poles of land including the farmhouse and two cottages called [[Graham Cottages]] built on the main road by the previous owner John Forrest of [[Grymsdyke]] in 1885. (click [[John & Evelyn Forrest]] for more about their lives.)

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 '''Market Days.'''   He always went to Thame market on Tuesdays and Wycombe market on Fridays.   He did a lot of dealing, often buying and selling-on without taking the stock home.  William couldn`t read or write and Bethia went with him to do the writing.
-He traded in horses, usually keeping them in the field behind [[Hillcrest]] House in [[Goodacres Lane]] where he had built a barn,
+'''He traded in horses,''' usually keeping them in the field behind [[Hillcrest]] House in [[Goodacres Lane]] where he had built a barn,
 The result was that in the autumn field mushrooms grew there in abundance.   Many people would go there and fill their baskets with these wonderful treats.
-William waited until baskets were getting full then would appear, driving his donkey cart, accuse the pickers of trespassing, and confiscate the mushrooms.   Easy pickings!!!   For more see [[William Saunders & Bethia Janes]]<nowiki/>grew a lot of mushrooms which people liked to collect.   He kept a little donkey and trap and would rush across and stop them, and take what they had picked.    See [https://laceygreenhistory.com/w/index.php/1924_William's_easy_pickings 1924 William's easy pickings]
+William waited until baskets were getting full then would appear, driving his donkey cart, accuse the pickers of trespassing, and confiscate the mushrooms.   Easy pickings!!!
-He owned the field below [[Goodacres Lane]], called “Hillocks and gated it across so that he could drive the horses across the lane into their field.  This would block the way into "Glebe Field", the other field down there, causing  considerable inconvenience and a lot of mud.  Many bad words were exchanged.
+He owned the field below [[Goodacres Lane]], called “Hillocks" and gated it across so that he could drive the horses across the lane into their field.  This would block the way into "[[Glebe]] Field", the other field down there, causing  considerable inconvenience and a lot of mud.  Many bad words were exchanged.
 It is said that on another lane he met another trap and being unable to pass the two sat there best part of the day.

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 '''Market Days.'''   He always went to Thame market on Tuesdays and Wycombe market on Fridays.   He did a lot of dealing, often buying and selling-on without taking the stock home.  William couldn`t read or write and Bethia went with him to do the writing.
-He bought  his own horses from John Baillie, Theobalds Road, London, usually keeping them in the field behind [[Hillcrest]] House where he had built a barn,  The field grew a lot of mushrooms which people liked to collect.   He kept a little donkey and trap and would rush across and stop them, and take what they had picked.    See [https://laceygreenhistory.com/w/index.php/1924_William's_easy_pickings 1924 William's easy pickings]
+He traded in horses, usually keeping them in the field behind [[Hillcrest]] House in [[Goodacres Lane]] where he had built a barn,
 He owned the field below [[Goodacres Lane]], called “Hillocks and gated it across so that he could drive the horses across the lane into their field.  This would block the way into "Glebe Field", the other field down there, causing  considerable inconvenience and a lot of mud.  Many bad words were exchanged.

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 '''Annie Daisy Saunders''' born 1893 married Ernest Smith in 1919.  click [[Ernest & Daisy Smith]] for their story.  Also click [[1919 Wedding of Daisy Saunders & Ernest Smith]].
-'''[[Mabel Janes]] of  [[Sunnybank]] in [[Highwood Bottom]] knew of him and and she related :-'''
+'''[[Mabel Janes]] of  [[Sunnybank]] in [[Highwood Bottom]]''' knew of him and and she related to [[Joan West]]
-'''WW1 Horses Taken'''  A team of his best horses was taken from his wagon at Holtspur on the A40 during the first world war for the army, leaving him stranded with a loaded wagon at the top of White Hill.   See [[1916 Horses taken by the Army]]
+'''Trading in London.  William  produced hay and straw for which there was a ready market in London for both cows and horses.'''  There were numerous small dairy farms in London.   They would have up to six cows each, and were always kept inside.   He brought back manure to put on his fields.  There were also thousands of horses.   Not only horses and ponies kept for working but also for riding.    His own horses he bought from John Baillie of Theobalds Road, London.
-'''Trading in London.  William  produced hay and straw for which there was a ready market in London.'''  His own horses he bought from John Baillie of Theobalds Road, London. There were numerous small dairy farms in London.   They would have up to six cows each, and were always kept inside.   He brought back manure to put on his fields.   There were also thousands of horses.   Not only horses and ponies kept for working but also for riding.
+'''1916 Horses taken by the Army.'''   It was a long, slow journey taking loads of hay and straw, by horse and cart to London    Dangerous at the best of times.
-She said that he was remembered for swotting flies which particularly annoyed him.   He had a very loud voice she could hear him from her home, Sunnybank, in Highwood Bottom and so had the donkey which would bray loudly if he left it.
+William Saunders did this regularly.  During WW1, with a full load pulled by his best horses, he was particularly distressed when he was stopped at the top of the hill at Holtspur, between Wycombe and Beaconsfield, and his horses taken by army'''.'''   And to make matters worse he was left up the A40 with a loaded wagon and nothing to pull it with.
 William also continued to farm Pound Farm down at Saunderton Lee.   When he needed extra workers he would shout instructions down to them from near Lacey Green Windmill.
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 William was very much the boss of his family.   He did not work on Sundays.
-Bethia was remembered as a short, stout, gentle woman, a good wife and mother.   She brought up Harry Floyd, their grandson from the age of 2, starting when they lived at Smalldean Farm.
+Bethia was remembered as a short, stout, gentle woman, a good wife and mother.   She brought up Harry Floyd, their grandson from the age of 2, starting when they lived at [[Smalldean Farm]].
-'''Report by Alan Luxford,'''  g.grandson of William and Bethia, grandson of [[Sidney & Bessie Ing]] talked of him :-
+'''Report by Alan Luxford,'''  Great grandson of William and Bethia, grandson of [[Sidney & Bessie Ing]] talked of him :-
 '''Market Days.'''   He always went to Thame market on Tuesdays and Wycombe market on Fridays.   He did a lot of dealing, often buying and selling-on without taking the stock home.  William couldn`t read or write and Bethia went with him to do the writing.
-He bought  his own horses from John Baillie, Theobalds Road, London, usually keeping them in the field behind Hillcrest House where he had built a barn,  The field grew a lot of mushrooms which people liked to collect.   He kept a little donkey and trap and would rush across and stop them, and take what they had picked.    See [https://laceygreenhistory.com/w/index.php/1924_William's_easy_pickings 1924 William's easy pickings]
+He bought  his own horses from John Baillie, Theobalds Road, London, usually keeping them in the field behind [[Hillcrest]] House where he had built a barn,  The field grew a lot of mushrooms which people liked to collect.   He kept a little donkey and trap and would rush across and stop them, and take what they had picked.    See [https://laceygreenhistory.com/w/index.php/1924_William's_easy_pickings 1924 William's easy pickings]
 He owned the field below [[Goodacres Lane]], called “Hillocks and gated it across so that he could drive the horses across the lane into their field.  This would block the way into "Glebe Field", the other field down there, causing  considerable inconvenience and a lot of mud.  Many bad words were exchanged.

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 '''Alice Saunders''' born 1887married Philip Sidney Pitcher, farmer.   Click [[Philip & Alice Pitcher]].  When their farm failed they moved into [https://laceygreenhistory.com/w/index.php/Hillcrest Hillcrest].1893
-'''Harry Saunders, born 1889''' the only son married  Pamela Saunders (no relation) from Bradenham   click [[Harry & Pamela Saunders]] for their life story[[File:Unknown Family.jpg|thumb|William & Bethia with children of Harry & Pammie in Stocken Farm Garden|link=https://laceygreenhistory.com/w/index.php/File:Unknown_Family.jpg]]''Researcher's note''.  Harry worked for his ''father.   William was very strong willed and no doubt difficult and certainly unlikely to retire, although he had built [[Hillcrest]] House, [[Goodacres Lane]] supposedly for his retirement.  Life was not easy for Harry.  However he made a very happy marriage with Pamela (Pammie) Saunders from Bradenham.  They had four daughters, themselves happily married, when Harry was devastated by the death of his wife in a car crash, tragically driven by his son-in-law.''
+'''Harry Saunders, born 1889''' the only son married  Pamela Saunders (no relation) from Bradenham   click [[Harry & Pamela Saunders]] for their life story[[File:Unknown Family.jpg|thumb|William & Bethia with Harry, Pammie and childen in Stocken Farm Garden|link=https://laceygreenhistory.com/w/index.php/File:Unknown_Family.jpg]]''Researcher's note''.  Harry worked for his ''father.   William was very strong willed and no doubt difficult and certainly unlikely to retire, although he had built [[Hillcrest]] House, [[Goodacres Lane]] supposedly for his retirement.  Life was not easy for Harry.  However he made a very happy marriage with Pamela (Pammie) Saunders from Bradenham.  They had four daughters, themselves happily married, when Harry was devastated by the death of his wife in a car crash, tragically driven by his son-in-law.''
 '''Annie Daisy Saunders''' born 1893 married Ernest Smith in 1919.  click [[Ernest & Daisy Smith]] for their story.  Also click [[1919 Wedding of Daisy Saunders & Ernest Smith]].
-'''[[Mabel Janes]] of [[White House Farm or Sunnybank]] as it was then, knew of him and and she related :-'''
+'''[[Mabel Janes]] of  [[Sunnybank]] in [[Highwood Bottom]] knew of him and and she related :-'''
 '''WW1 Horses Taken'''  A team of his best horses was taken from his wagon at Holtspur on the A40 during the first world war for the army, leaving him stranded with a loaded wagon at the top of White Hill.   See [[1916 Horses taken by the Army]]

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 '''1911 Purchase of Stocken Farm.'''  He was still also farming Smalldean Farm and Pound Farm when he bought  [[Stocken Farm]] in Lacey Green for £3,400.
-[[File:Carrie Floyd.jpg|left|thumb]]
+[[File:Carrie Floyd.jpg|left|thumb|Emma Caroline 'Carrie' Saunders.
 It had 167 acres, 1 rood ,24 poles of land including the farmhouse and two cottages called [[Graham Cottages]] built on the main road by the previous owner John Forrest of [[Grymsdyke]] in 1885.   (click [[John & Evelyn Forrest]] for more about their lives.)

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 The story of Stocken Farm continues here from [[Stocken Farm with John Forrest]].   Stocken Farm continues after William Saunders with [[Stocken Farm with landlord Ernest Smith and tenants Dick & Hilda West]]
 [[File:William Saunders Portrait.jpg|left|thumb|William Saunders]]
-[[File:Bethia Saunders Portrait.jpg|thumb]]
+[[File:Bethia Saunders Portrait.jpg|thumb|Bethia Saunders]]
 William Saunders owned Stocken Farm from 1911 until his death in 1934.